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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
[edit]The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
[edit]- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
[edit]- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
[edit]Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
[edit]- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
[edit]- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
[edit]- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
[edit]When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
[edit]- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
[edit]If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 19:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 642 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Pretty Poison albums to Category:Pretty Poison (group) albums – C2D per Pretty Poison (group). Erpert blah, blah, blah... 18:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Samuthirakani to Category:Films directed by P. Samuthirakani – C2D: He is P. Samuthirakani. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Widowmaker (U.K. band) members to Category:Widowmaker (British band) members – C2D: British is the preferred usage for such disambiguators. Article moved to Widowmaker (British band) in September 2024. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:January 1905 events by continent to Category:January 1905 by continent – C2C: per CfD. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:January 1905 events by country to Category:January 1905 by country
- Category:January 1905 events in Canada to Category:January 1905 in Canada
- Category:January 1905 events in Europe to Category:January 1905 in Europe
- Category:January 1905 events in North America to Category:January 1905 in North America
- Category:January 1906 events by continent to Category:January 1906 by continent
- Category:January 1906 events by country to Category:January 1906 by country
- Category:January 1906 events in Europe to Category:January 1906 in Europe
- Category:January 1906 events in the United Kingdom to Category:January 1906 in the United Kingdom
- Category:January 1907 events by continent to Category:January 1907 by continent
- Category:January 1907 events in Europe to Category:January 1907 in Europe
- Category:January 1907 events in North America to Category:January 1907 in North America
- Category:January 1910 events by continent to Category:January 1910 by continent
- Category:January 1910 events by country to Category:January 1910 by country
- Category:January 1910 events in Canada to Category:January 1910 in Canada
- Category:January 1910 events in Europe to Category:January 1910 in Europe
- Category:January 1910 events in North America to Category:January 1910 in North America
- Category:January 1910 events in the United Kingdom to Category:January 1910 in the United Kingdom
- Category:January 1910 events in the United States to Category:January 1910 in the United States
- Category:January 1912 events by continent to Category:January 1912 by continent
- Category:January 1912 events by country to Category:January 1912 by country
- Category:January 1912 events in Canada to Category:January 1912 in Canada
- Category:January 1912 events in Europe to Category:January 1912 in Europe
- Category:January 1912 events in North America to Category:January 1912 in North America
- Category:January 1912 events in the United States to Category:January 1912 in the United States
- Category:January 1913 events by continent to Category:January 1913 by continent
- Category:January 1913 events by country to Category:January 1913 by country
- Category:January 1913 events in North America to Category:January 1913 in North America
- Category:January 1913 events in the United States to Category:January 1913 in the United States
- Category:January 1914 events by continent to Category:January 1914 by continent
- Category:January 1914 events in Europe to Category:January 1914 in Europe
- Category:January 1915 events by continent to Category:January 1915 by continent
- Category:January 1915 events by country to Category:January 1915 by country
- Category:January 1915 events in Europe to Category:January 1915 in Europe
- Category:January 1915 events in the United Kingdom to Category:January 1915 in the United Kingdom
- Category:January 1916 events by continent to Category:January 1916 by continent
- Category:January 1916 events in Europe to Category:January 1916 in Europe
- Category:January 1917 events by continent to Category:January 1917 by continent
- Category:January 1917 events by country to Category:January 1917 by country
- Category:January 1917 events in Europe to Category:January 1917 in Europe
- Category:January 1917 events in North America to Category:January 1917 in North America
- Category:January 1917 events in the United States to Category:January 1917 in the United States
- Category:January 1918 events by continent to Category:January 1918 by continent
- Category:January 1918 events by country to Category:January 1918 by country
- Category:January 1918 events in Europe to Category:January 1918 in Europe
- Category:January 1918 events in North America to Category:January 1918 in North America
- Category:January 1918 events in the United States to Category:January 1918 in the United States
- Category:January 1919 events by continent to Category:January 1919 by continent
- Category:January 1919 events by country to Category:January 1919 by country
- Category:January 1919 events in Europe to Category:January 1919 in Europe
- Category:January 1919 events in North America to Category:January 1919 in North America
- Category:January 1919 events in the United States to Category:January 1919 in the United States
- Category:January 1920 events by continent to Category:January 1920 by continent
- Category:January 1920 events by country to Category:January 1920 by country
- Category:January 1920 events in Europe to Category:January 1920 in Europe
- Category:January 1920 events in North America to Category:January 1920 in North America
- Category:January 1920 events in the United States to Category:January 1920 in the United States
- Category:January 1921 events by continent to Category:January 1921 by continent
- Category:January 1921 events by country to Category:January 1921 by country
- Category:January 1921 events in Europe to Category:January 1921 in Europe
- Category:January 1921 events in North America to Category:January 1921 in North America
- Category:January 1921 events in the United States to Category:January 1921 in the United States
- Category:January 1922 events by continent to Category:January 1922 by continent
- Category:January 1922 events by country to Category:January 1922 by country
- Category:January 1922 events in Europe to Category:January 1922 in Europe
- Category:January 1922 events in North America to Category:January 1922 in North America
- Category:January 1922 events in the United States to Category:January 1922 in the United States
- Category:January 1923 events by continent to Category:January 1923 by continent
- Category:January 1923 events by country to Category:January 1923 by country
- Category:January 1923 events in Europe to Category:January 1923 in Europe
- Category:January 1923 events in North America to Category:January 1923 in North America
- Category:January 1923 events in the United Kingdom to Category:January 1923 in the United Kingdom
- Category:January 1923 events in the United States to Category:January 1923 in the United States
- Category:January 1924 events by continent to Category:January 1924 by continent
- Category:January 1924 events by country to Category:January 1924 by country
- Category:January 1924 events in Canada to Category:January 1924 in Canada
- Category:January 1924 events in Europe to Category:January 1924 in Europe
- Category:January 1924 events in North America to Category:January 1924 in North America
- Category:January 1924 events in the United States to Category:January 1924 in the United States
- Category:January 1925 events by continent to Category:January 1925 by continent
- Category:January 1925 events by country to Category:January 1925 by country
- Category:January 1925 events in Europe to Category:January 1925 in Europe
- Category:January 1925 events in North America to Category:January 1925 in North America
- Category:January 1925 events in the United States to Category:January 1925 in the United States
- Category:Television episodes about illegal drug trade to Category:Television episodes about the illegal drug trade - C2B/C2C: Category:Works about the illegal drug trade, etc. DoubleCross (‡) 16:35, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Television series about illegal drug trade to Category:Television series about the illegal drug trade - C2B/C2C. DoubleCross (‡) 16:35, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose the above two, one can also argue that the Works should be renamed the other way around. There is no clear standard. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:49, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sports competitions in Paisley to Category:Sports competitions in Paisley, Renfrewshire – C2D: Paisley, Renfrewshire User:Namiba 16:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ukrainian cultural centres to Category:Cultural centres in Ukraine – C2C: With other entries in Category:Cultural centers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Traditional Sri Lankan sports to Category:Traditional sports of Sri Lanka – C2C: Match other categories in Category:Traditional sports by country / foo of country naming scheme. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Indonesian traditional games to Category:Traditional games of Indonesia – C2C: Follow naming scheme of parent categories of Category:Traditional games by country and Category:Entertainment in Indonesia (foo of country). Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Korean people in the Imperial Japanese Army to Category:Koreans in the Imperial Japanese Army – C2D: Per Koreans, not "Korean people" seefooddiet (talk) 08:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Murder by year to Category:Murders by year – C2C: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 15#Murder in YYYY. To implement, simply undo Special:Diff/1271243643. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:January 1861 events by continent to Category:January 1861 by continent – C2C: per CfD –Aidan721 (talk) 02:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:January 1861 events by country to Category:January 1861 by country
- Category:January 1861 events in North America to Category:January 1861 in North America
- Category:January 1861 events in the United States to Category:January 1861 in the United States
- Category:January 1900 events by continent to Category:January 1900 by continent
- Category:January 1900 events by country to Category:January 1900 by country
- Category:January 1900 events in North America to Category:January 1900 in North America
- Category:January 1900 events in the United States to Category:January 1900 in the United States
- Category:January 1901 events by continent to Category:January 1901 by continent
- Category:January 1901 events by country to Category:January 1901 by country
- Category:January 1901 events in Europe to Category:January 1901 in Europe
- Category:January 1901 events in North America to Category:January 1901 in North America
- Category:January 1901 events in the United States to Category:January 1901 in the United States
- Category:January 1903 events by continent to Category:January 1903 by continent
- Category:January 1903 events by country to Category:January 1903 by country
- Category:January 1903 events in Canada to Category:January 1903 in Canada
- Category:January 1903 events in North America to Category:January 1903 in North America
- Category:January 1903 events in the United States to Category:January 1903 in the United States
- Category:January 1904 events by continent to Category:January 1904 by continent
- Category:January 1904 events by country to Category:January 1904 by country
- Category:January 1904 events in Europe to Category:January 1904 in Europe
- Category:January 1904 events in North America to Category:January 1904 in North America
- Category:January 1904 events in the United States to Category:January 1904 in the United States
- @Aidan721: Correct me if I'm wrong... but since that full list was included at the CfD, shouldn't this just be moved to WP:CFDS/Working? I'm not sure this needs to through CFDS itself for further renaming. Pinging @HouseBlaster, as they'd know better about this and could add the pages if they wanted to. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- These were subcategroies of the categories in the CfD. They were not directly nominated. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:30, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- My mistake, I see that now. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- These were subcategroies of the categories in the CfD. They were not directly nominated. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:30, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Aidan721: Correct me if I'm wrong... but since that full list was included at the CfD, shouldn't this just be moved to WP:CFDS/Working? I'm not sure this needs to through CFDS itself for further renaming. Pinging @HouseBlaster, as they'd know better about this and could add the pages if they wanted to. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:PDP–Laban politicians to Category:Partido Demokratiko Pilipino politicians – C2D; aeticle is at Partido Demokratiko Pilipino. Howard the Duck (talk) 00:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Song recording produced by Pdogg to Category:Song recordings produced by Pdogg – C2A: typographical/spelling fix as it should be "recordings" not "recording" & C2C: naming convention of category names in Category:Song recordings by producer. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Permian Actinopterygii to Category:Permian ray-finned fish – C2C:Category:Prehistoric ray-finned fish
- Category:Carboniferous Actinopterygii to Category:Carboniferous ray-finned fish – C2C:Category:Prehistoric ray-finned fish Geekgecko (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Carboniferous Actinopterygii of Europe to Category:Carboniferous ray-finned fish of Europe Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Carboniferous Actinopterygii of North America to Category:Carboniferous ray-finned fish of North America Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Mississippian Actinopterygii to Category:Mississippian ray-finned fish Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Mississippian Actinopterygii of Europe to Category:Mississippian ray-finned fish of Europe Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Mississippian Actinopterygii of North America to Category:Mississippian ray-finned fish of North America Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pennsylvanian Actinopterygii to Category:Pennsylvanian ray-finned fish Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pennsylvanian Actinopterygii of Europe to Category:Pennsylvanian ray-finned fish of Europe Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pennsylvanian Actinopterygii of North America to Category:Pennsylvanian ray-finned fish of North America Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Devonian Actinopterygii to Category:Devonian ray-finned fish – C2C:Category:Prehistoric ray-finned fish (all constituent categories also need renaming) Geekgecko (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Miocene fishes of Europe to Category:Miocene fish of Europe – C2C:Category:Neogene fish of Europe Geekgecko (talk) 22:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I tagged these categories, but subcategories also need to be tagged and listed here.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- There aren't any subcategories for the Miocene fish one, but I just listed the ones for the Paleozoic fish above. Geekgecko (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I tagged these categories, but subcategories also need to be tagged and listed here.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Military history of Sydney during World War II to Category:Sydney in World War II – C2C XTheBedrockX (talk) 22:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have just tagged the category.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Works by Junkie XL to Category:Works by Tom Holkenborg - C2D: Tom Holkenborg. DoubleCross (‡) 22:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Junkie XL albums to Category:Tom Holkenborg albums - C2D. DoubleCross (‡) 22:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Junkie XL to Category:Films scored by Tom Holkenborg - C2D. DoubleCross (‡) 22:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Video games scored by Junkie XL to Category:Video games scored by Tom Holkenborg - C2D. DoubleCross (‡) 22:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:FIVB trophies and awards to Category:Fédération Internationale de Volleyball trophies and awards – C2D: Fédération Internationale de Volleyball and other categories in Category:Fédération Internationale de Volleyball Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:White House Staff Secretaries to Category:White House staff secretaries – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:White House Deputy Chiefs of Staff to Category:White House deputy chiefs of staff – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 20:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Counselors to the President to Category:Counselors to the president of the United States – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Also clarifies which president the category refers to (e.g. Category:Senior advisors to the president of the United States). Woko Sapien (talk) 20:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chiefs of staff to the First Lady of the United States to Category:Chiefs of staff to the first lady of the United States – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. "First Lady" is modified by a definite article ("the"), thus rendering it lowercase per the manual of style. Woko Sapien (talk) 20:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Neomexicanos to Category:Hispanos of New Mexico – C2A: Main page name is Hispanos of New Mexico, not Neomexicanos Plumber (talk) 18:33, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Khostinsky City District to Category:Khostinsky city district – C2D: Main article was moved. Dicklyon (talk) 11:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lazarevsky City District to Category:Lazarevsky city district – C2D: Main article was moved. Dicklyon (talk) 11:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Adlersky City District to Category:Adlersky city district – C2D: Main article was moved. Dicklyon (talk) 11:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Tsentralny City District, Sochi to Category:Tsentralny city district – C2D. Dicklyon (talk) 10:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Hill-McIndoe-Gillies family to Category:Hill–McIndoe–Gillies family – C2A: We use en-dashes to separate families when they are not hyphenated names. Mike Selinker (talk) 08:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Calderon family of California to Category:Calderon family (California) – C2C: Per all other categories in Category:American families by state or territory needing disambiguation. Mike Selinker (talk) 08:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Petro Family to Category:Petro family – C2A: Capitalization. Mike Selinker (talk) 08:30, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:LEN to Category:European Aquatics – C2D per European Aquatics. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Parliamentary Private Secretaries to the Prime Minister to Category:Parliamentary private secretaries to the prime minister – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 22:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian masters athletes to Category:Canadian masters track and field athletes – C2C: Category:Canadian track and field athletes Kaffet i halsen (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, @Kaffet i halsen the issue is that athletics and track and field don't have the same meaning, we have separate wiki pages for both terms. For example marathon runners may belong in Category:Canadian masters athletes but they're not track and field athletes per se. --Habst (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I find Category:Canadian marathon runners under Category:Canadian runners under Category:Canadian track and field athletes. In what way does masters marathon runners differ? This is the most recent discussion about the usage of (track and field) athletes for American/Canadian (as American is listed below). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen, all runners are track and field athletes, and all marathoners are runners, but not all marathoners are track and field athletes. This is nonsensical logically, but it's accurate linguistically in the way these words are currently used. To eliminate all confusion, I think that most American English "track and field" categories should be renamed to "track and field, cross country, or road racing" one day. --Habst (talk) 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I find Category:Canadian marathon runners under Category:Canadian runners under Category:Canadian track and field athletes. In what way does masters marathon runners differ? This is the most recent discussion about the usage of (track and field) athletes for American/Canadian (as American is listed below). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, @Kaffet i halsen the issue is that athletics and track and field don't have the same meaning, we have separate wiki pages for both terms. For example marathon runners may belong in Category:Canadian masters athletes but they're not track and field athletes per se. --Habst (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Raphael rooms to Category:Raphael Rooms – C2D, per Raphael Rooms. Ham II (talk) 19:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:American masters athletes to Category:American masters track and field athletes – C2C: Category:American track and field athletes Kaffet i halsen (talk) 17:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, see Category:Canadian masters athletes above. --Habst (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Mesoamerican art collectors to Category:Collectors of Mesoamerican art – C2C: consistent with parent Collectors of indigenous art of the Americas and easier to distinguish the intend is collector of subject SMasonGarrison 05:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:American artists of Middle Eastern descent to Category:American artists of West Asian descent – C2C: per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_21#People_of_Middle_Eastern_descent and parent American people of West Asian descent SMasonGarrison 02:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:Soviet avant-garde to Category:Soviet avant-garde artists – C2C: parent is Soviet artists SMasonGarrison 23:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy: There are also the sibling categories (within Category:Avant-garde art) Category:Russian avant-garde, Category:Serbian avant-garde and Category:Ukrainian avant-garde to consider. Ham II (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian Dames Commander of the Order of the British Empire to Category:Canadian dames – C2C: to match sister categories in Category:Canadian recipients of British titles and Category:Dames by country. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: do you mean rename to Category:Canadian dames Commander of the Order of the British Empire? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle. No. Since there are only two Canadian women with articles who are dames, making distinction between which order is pointless. Since Canada does not have a system of titles like this, there aren't likely to be more dames. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: ok, but I don't think that is speediable. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle. No. Since there are only two Canadian women with articles who are dames, making distinction between which order is pointless. Since Canada does not have a system of titles like this, there aren't likely to be more dames. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: do you mean rename to Category:Canadian dames Commander of the Order of the British Empire? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- Category:Possibly fictional pirates to Category:Pirates whose existence is disputed – C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed SMasonGarrison 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe SMasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe SMasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Stainton, south Cumbria to Category:Stainton, Westmorland and Furness – C2D: Match Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose ambiguous with Stainton, Dacre, see User talk:Hey man im josh#Stainton. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Postpone until we know the result of the proposed move of Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Grutness...wha? 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:State of Palestine to Category:Palestine (over disambiguation) and subcategories – C2D per Palestine following the move of the country article at this RM. Note that several of the targets are filled by disambiguation pages from when Palestine was occupied by what is now at Palestine (disambiguation). Timrollpickering (talk) 23:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- This should probably go to full discussion. Per WP:C2D:
it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator
. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per above. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 16:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- This should probably go to full discussion. Per WP:C2D:
- Moved to full discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 9#Palestine. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Peggy Jay family to Category:Jay-Garnett family - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of Peggy Jay. OGBC1992 (talk) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Ymblanter I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. OGBC1992 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 6. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- It was relisted again on CFD 2025 Jan 15. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 6. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American Masters Athlete that competed in Olympics to Category:American Olympic masters athletes – C2A: Title case, grammar Habst (talk) 13:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- The proposed title gives the impression that they were masters while they were at the Olympics or competed in an Olympic masters competition, which is not the case – they have been at the Olympics for any NOC and they are American master athletes, which probably is reason for deletion per WP:NONDEF. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 15:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agree with above. A rename is misleading. And yeah this should probably be deleted. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Aidan721 @Kaffet i halsen, that's fine, but rather than being deleted it should be down-merged into Category:American masters athletes and a subcat of Category:Olympic track and field athletes for the United States. --Habst (talk) 21:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Habst, Aidan721, and Kaffet i halsen: feel free to start a fresh discussion at full CfD aimed at merging or deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Aidan721 @Kaffet i halsen, that's fine, but rather than being deleted it should be down-merged into Category:American masters athletes and a subcat of Category:Olympic track and field athletes for the United States. --Habst (talk) 21:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:45, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- These are very special / unique individuals that competed as an Olympian, and were capable of continuing to compete later as a Masters athlete. Many Olympians have attempted to continue as a Masters but were unable (due to past injuries or other reasons). Recommend: to not change.
- [Side note: Not part of this conversation: Occasionally the individual has been a both at the same time.] PlainDonut (talk) 21:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Ready for deletion
[edit]Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.
Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.